vista ultimate question

Hi - I realize the Vista OSs could change between now and RTM, but am I correct in understanding that Vista Ultimate essentially is a combination of Windows XP Professional and Windows Media Center Edition? If so, that seems like the logical choice for me, since I probably will buy the same OS for my main PC which is used for office applications, gaming, and occasional TV and DVD viewing.
About 4 years ago, I built what now amounts to a MCE computer attached to an old 31 inch Gateway monitor. The original OS was 98SE, but currently is XP Pro. The monitor finally died and I am looking at an HDTV with an HDMI input jack. In addition, I plan to upgrade the case, and because that's hardware, I can also purchase an OEM copy of MCE 2005 from Newegg or ZipZoomFly.
Waiting for Vista will not keep me from upgrading at this point. However, I am a bit confused by the new Vista naming convention, and simply want to know what to look for when it's time to upgrade further.
BTW, I already checked out Paul Thurrott's site:
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_editions.asp
Thanks Joe

What is confusing about the naming convention? Its very distinct in each SKU,
Starter - Introductory Home Basic - General operating system for single users Home Premium - Multimedia OS with Tablet PC functionality Business - For IT Professionals with Domain Join support, plus Tablet PC support Enterprise - Deployment features plus whats in Business Ultimate, everything thats in all the SKU's above and a whole lot more, I think it also includes the planet Jupiter. ;)
Thurrotts analysis explains it well. -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm "Joe727" wrote in message

Hi - I realize the Vista OSs could change between now and RTM, but am I correct in understanding that Vista Ultimate essentially is a combination of Windows XP Professional and Windows Media Center Edition? If so, that seems like the logical choice for me, since I probably will buy the same OS for my main PC which is used for office applications, gaming, and occasional TV and DVD viewing.
About 4 years ago, I built what now amounts to a MCE computer attached to an old 31 inch Gateway monitor. The original OS was 98SE, but currently is XP Pro. The monitor finally died and I am looking at an HDTV with an HDMI input jack. In addition, I plan to upgrade the case, and because that's hardware, I can also purchase an OEM copy of MCE 2005 from Newegg or ZipZoomFly.
Waiting for Vista will not keep me from upgrading at this point. However, I am a bit confused by the new Vista naming convention, and simply want to know what to look for when it's time to upgrade further.
BTW, I already checked out Paul Thurrott's site:
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_editions.asp
Thanks Joe

If you're a developer, or you are a Media Center sort of person, you will be wanting the Ultimate Edition. You're right in saying that the Ultimate Edition is Professional and MCE as one, however they use the word "ultimate" to literally mean it. It has absolutely everything you may want.
*everything!!*
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--- Original message follows --- "Joe727" wrote in message

Hi - I realize the Vista OSs could change between now and RTM, but am I correct in understanding that Vista Ultimate essentially is a combination of Windows XP Professional and Windows Media Center Edition? If so, that seems like the logical choice for me, since I probably will buy the same OS for my main PC which is used for office applications, gaming, and occasional TV and DVD viewing.
About 4 years ago, I built what now amounts to a MCE computer attached to an old 31 inch Gateway monitor. The original OS was 98SE, but currently is XP Pro. The monitor finally died and I am looking at an HDTV with an HDMI input jack. In addition, I plan to upgrade the case, and because that's hardware, I can also purchase an OEM copy of MCE 2005 from Newegg or ZipZoomFly.
Waiting for Vista will not keep me from upgrading at this point. However, I am a bit confused by the new Vista naming convention, and simply want to know what to look for when it's time to upgrade further.
BTW, I already checked out Paul Thurrott's site:
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_editions.asp
Thanks Joe

"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message

If you're a developer, or you are a Media Center sort of person, you will be wanting the Ultimate Edition. You're right in saying that the Ultimate Edition is Professional and MCE as one, however they use the word "ultimate" to literally mean it. It has absolutely everything you may want.
*everything!!*
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
I think of Ultimate Edition as *Windows Vista Kitchen Sink Edition* as,

except for some features unique to Enterprise Edition (which will only be sold under volume licensing agreements) it includes features of every non-N version of Windows (basically, everything but the kitchen sink). It replaces both XP Media Center Edition and TabletPC Edition, and, unlike either, will also be available at retail (as both a full product and as an upgrade). From what Microsoft has discussed, it will upgrade XP Home Edition, Professional Edition (and their N flavors) as well as TabletPC and Media Center Edition (both 2004 *and* 2005). Like XP TabletPC Edition (but unlike Media Center Edition) this version supports non-Microsoft networks and domains. If you have a TV tuner card (and especially if you have more than one), do presentations, or own a Tablet or Media Center PC, then this version of Vista is for you.
Christopher L. Estep

uhh, why would you need Ultimate to be a developer? All editions should utilize the WinFX runtime and core pillars WPF and WCF, you could even develop on Starter 2007. -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message

If you're a developer, or you are a Media Center sort of person, you will be wanting the Ultimate Edition. You're right in saying that the Ultimate Edition is Professional and MCE as one, however they use the word "ultimate" to literally mean it. It has absolutely everything you may want.
*everything!!*
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Joe727" wrote in message Hi - I realize the Vista OSs could change between now and RTM, but am I correct in understanding that Vista Ultimate essentially is a combination of Windows XP Professional and Windows Media Center Edition? If so, that seems like the logical choice for me, since I probably will buy the same OS for my main PC which is used for office applications, gaming, and occasional TV and DVD viewing.
About 4 years ago, I built what now amounts to a MCE computer attached to an old 31 inch Gateway monitor. The original OS was 98SE, but currently is XP Pro. The monitor finally died and I am looking at an HDTV with an HDMI input jack. In addition, I plan to upgrade the case, and because that's hardware, I can also purchase an OEM copy of MCE 2005 from Newegg or ZipZoomFly.
Waiting for Vista will not keep me from upgrading at this point. However, I am a bit confused by the new Vista naming convention, and simply want to know what to look for when it's time to upgrade further.
BTW, I already checked out Paul Thurrott's site:
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_editions.asp
Thanks Joe

Thanks for responding.
Joe
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

What is confusing about the naming convention? Its very distinct in each SKU,
Starter - Introductory Home Basic - General operating system for single users Home Premium - Multimedia OS with Tablet PC functionality Business - For IT Professionals with Domain Join support, plus Tablet PC support Enterprise - Deployment features plus whats in Business Ultimate, everything thats in all the SKU's above and a whole lot more, I think it also includes the planet Jupiter. ;)
Thurrotts analysis explains it well. -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm "Joe727" wrote in message Hi - I realize the Vista OSs could change between now and RTM, but am I correct in understanding that Vista Ultimate essentially is a combination of Windows XP Professional and Windows Media Center Edition? If so, that seems like the logical choice for me, since I probably will buy the same OS for my main PC which is used for office applications, gaming, and occasional TV and DVD viewing.
About 4 years ago, I built what now amounts to a MCE computer attached to an old 31 inch Gateway monitor. The original OS was 98SE, but currently is XP Pro. The monitor finally died and I am looking at an HDTV with an HDMI input jack. In addition, I plan to upgrade the case, and because that's hardware, I can also purchase an OEM copy of MCE 2005 from Newegg or ZipZoomFly.
Waiting for Vista will not keep me from upgrading at this point. However, I am a bit confused by the new Vista naming convention, and simply want to know what to look for when it's time to upgrade further.
BTW, I already checked out Paul Thurrott's site:
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_editions.asp
Thanks Joe

Thanks for the clarification. It was a toss-up between Ultimate and Home Premium.
Joe
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message

If you're a developer, or you are a Media Center sort of person, you will be wanting the Ultimate Edition. You're right in saying that the Ultimate Edition is Professional and MCE as one, however they use the word "ultimate" to literally mean it. It has absolutely everything you may want.
*everything!!*
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Joe727" wrote in message Hi - I realize the Vista OSs could change between now and RTM, but am I correct in understanding that Vista Ultimate essentially is a combination of Windows XP Professional and Windows Media Center Edition? If so, that seems like the logical choice for me, since I probably will buy the same OS for my main PC which is used for office applications, gaming, and occasional TV and DVD viewing.
About 4 years ago, I built what now amounts to a MCE computer attached to an old 31 inch Gateway monitor. The original OS was 98SE, but currently is XP Pro. The monitor finally died and I am looking at an HDTV with an HDMI input jack. In addition, I plan to upgrade the case, and because that's hardware, I can also purchase an OEM copy of MCE 2005 from Newegg or ZipZoomFly.
Waiting for Vista will not keep me from upgrading at this point. However, I am a bit confused by the new Vista naming convention, and simply want to know what to look for when it's time to upgrade further.
BTW, I already checked out Paul Thurrott's site:
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_editions.asp
Thanks Joe

"Christopher L .Estep" wrote in message

"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message If you're a developer, or you are a Media Center sort of person, you will be wanting the Ultimate Edition. You're right in saying that the Ultimate Edition is Professional and MCE as one, however they use the word "ultimate" to literally mean it. It has absolutely everything you may want.
*everything!!*
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
I think of Ultimate Edition as *Windows Vista Kitchen Sink Edition* as, except for some features unique to Enterprise Edition (which will only be sold under volume licensing agreements) it includes features of every non-N version of Windows (basically, everything but the kitchen sink). It replaces both XP Media Center Edition and TabletPC Edition, and, unlike either, will also be available at retail (as both a full product and as an upgrade). From what Microsoft has discussed, it will upgrade XP Home Edition, Professional Edition (and their N flavors) as well as TabletPC and Media Center Edition (both 2004 *and* 2005). Like XP TabletPC Edition (but unlike Media Center Edition) this version supports non-Microsoft networks and domains. If you have a TV tuner card (and especially if you have more than one), do presentations, or own a Tablet or Media Center PC, then this version of Vista is for you.
Christopher L. Estep

Thanks for the additional information.
Joe

OK I see your point in this one, of course if you really wanted to then yes, you could use Windows Starter 2007, however imagine that developing was building a shelf in the garage. You'd want all your tools there, you'd want your step ladder, you'd want everything that you'd need including light, including a cup of coffee and including some music.
So you obviously wouldn't go for the "N" edition if you wanted music ;o) I'm just saying that I think people who want to develop would be happier with Ultimate Edition rather than developing with Starter 2007, seeing as you can only have 3 applications running with Starter :o)
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

uhh, why would you need Ultimate to be a developer? All editions should utilize the WinFX runtime and core pillars WPF and WCF, you could even develop on Starter 2007. -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

They don't have to be happier to develop with Ultimate Edition, they could be just as happy with Home Basic or Business or even Enterprise. By the way, Visual Studio IDE allows you to work on multiple projects in one interface I believe. ;) -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message

OK I see your point in this one, of course if you really wanted to then yes, you could use Windows Starter 2007, however imagine that developing was building a shelf in the garage. You'd want all your tools there, you'd want your step ladder, you'd want everything that you'd need including light, including a cup of coffee and including some music.
So you obviously wouldn't go for the "N" edition if you wanted music ;o) I'm just saying that I think people who want to develop would be happier with Ultimate Edition rather than developing with Starter 2007, seeing as you can only have 3 applications running with Starter :o)
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message
uhh, why would you need Ultimate to be a developer? All editions should utilize the WinFX runtime and core pillars WPF and WCF, you could even develop on Starter 2007. -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor) wrote:

If you're a developer, or you are a Media Center sort of person, you will be wanting the Ultimate Edition. You're right in saying that the Ultimate Edition is Professional and MCE as one, however they use the word "ultimate" to literally mean it. It has absolutely everything you may want.
*everything!!*

I'm guessing the EU will turn round and demand an Ultimate N version without Media Player... <g>
Not that anyone will buy it of course...
-- Steve Foster [SBS MVP] --------------------------------------- MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.

Nah, very unlikely there will be an Ultimate N edition. Takes away the whole point of having it "ultimate" if it has no support for multimedia. It'll just be "Ultimate Edition" and thats it :o)
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" wrote in message

Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor) wrote:
If you're a developer, or you are a Media Center sort of person, you will be wanting the Ultimate Edition. You're right in saying that the Ultimate Edition is Professional and MCE as one, however they use the word "ultimate" to literally mean it. It has absolutely everything you may want.
*everything!!*
I'm guessing the EU will turn round and demand an Ultimate N version without Media Player... <g
Not that anyone will buy it of course...
-- Steve Foster [SBS MVP] --------------------------------------- MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.

I think it would depend on what the developer wanted to work on, depending on the features included.
-- Nancy Ward MSN Messenger MVP
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message

OK I see your point in this one, of course if you really wanted to then yes, you could use Windows Starter 2007, however imagine that developing was building a shelf in the garage. You'd want all your tools there, you'd want your step ladder, you'd want everything that you'd need including light, including a cup of coffee and including some music.
So you obviously wouldn't go for the "N" edition if you wanted music ;o) I'm just saying that I think people who want to develop would be happier with Ultimate Edition rather than developing with Starter 2007, seeing as you can only have 3 applications running with Starter :o)
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message
uhh, why would you need Ultimate to be a developer? All editions should utilize the WinFX runtime and core pillars WPF and WCF, you could even develop on Starter 2007. -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor) wrote:

Nah, very unlikely there will be an Ultimate N edition. Takes away the whole point of having it "ultimate" if it has no support for multimedia. It'll just be "Ultimate Edition" and thats it :o)

And your point is? (remember this is the EU we're talking about - common sense and logic don't apply) <g>
-- Steve Foster [SBS MVP] --------------------------------------- MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.

Any chance of knowing the likely prices of each versions? I would gather that the "Ultimate Edition" (upgrade) would probably be over £150 or something like that?
"Joe727" wrote in message

"Christopher L .Estep" wrote in message
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message If you're a developer, or you are a Media Center sort of person, you will be wanting the Ultimate Edition. You're right in saying that the Ultimate Edition is Professional and MCE as one, however they use the word "ultimate" to literally mean it. It has absolutely everything you may want.
*everything!!*
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
I think of Ultimate Edition as *Windows Vista Kitchen Sink Edition* as, except for some features unique to Enterprise Edition (which will only be sold under volume licensing agreements) it includes features of every non-N version of Windows (basically, everything but the kitchen sink). It replaces both XP Media Center Edition and TabletPC Edition, and, unlike either, will also be available at retail (as both a full product and as an upgrade). From what Microsoft has discussed, it will upgrade XP Home Edition, Professional Edition (and their N flavors) as well as TabletPC and Media Center Edition (both 2004 *and* 2005). Like XP TabletPC Edition (but unlike Media Center Edition) this version supports non-Microsoft networks and domains. If you have a TV tuner card (and especially if you have more than one), do presentations, or own a Tablet or Media Center PC, then this version of Vista is for you.
Christopher L. Estep
Thanks for the additional information.
Joe

Ultimate upgrade will be substantially less than the full version. Prices have not been set yet, but I'd imagine that the Ultimate version would be around about £240 GBP at least. Just a wild guess however.
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--- Original message follows --- "Test Man" wrote in message

Any chance of knowing the likely prices of each versions? I would gather that the "Ultimate Edition" (upgrade) would probably be over £150 or something like that?
"Joe727" wrote in message
"Christopher L .Estep" wrote in message
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message If you're a developer, or you are a Media Center sort of person, you will be wanting the Ultimate Edition. You're right in saying that the Ultimate Edition is Professional and MCE as one, however they use the word "ultimate" to literally mean it. It has absolutely everything you may want.
*everything!!*
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
I think of Ultimate Edition as *Windows Vista Kitchen Sink Edition* as, except for some features unique to Enterprise Edition (which will only be sold under volume licensing agreements) it includes features of every non-N version of Windows (basically, everything but the kitchen sink). It replaces both XP Media Center Edition and TabletPC Edition, and, unlike either, will also be available at retail (as both a full product and as an upgrade). From what Microsoft has discussed, it will upgrade XP Home Edition, Professional Edition (and their N flavors) as well as TabletPC and Media Center Edition (both 2004 *and* 2005). Like XP TabletPC Edition (but unlike Media Center Edition) this version supports non-Microsoft networks and domains. If you have a TV tuner card (and especially if you have more than one), do presentations, or own a Tablet or Media Center PC, then this version of Vista is for you.
Christopher L. Estep
Thanks for the additional information.
Joe

And where common sense and logic do apply? US or Russia? :)))))) LOL
"Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" wrote in message

Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor) wrote:
Nah, very unlikely there will be an Ultimate N edition. Takes away the whole point of having it "ultimate" if it has no support for multimedia. It'll just be "Ultimate Edition" and thats it :o)
And your point is? (remember this is the EU we're talking about - common sense and logic don't apply) <g
-- Steve Foster [SBS MVP] --------------------------------------- MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.

When it comes to any governing body common sense or logic are not a prerequisite and is commonly frowned on when applied.


"y3k" wrote in message

And where common sense and logic do apply? US or Russia? :)))))) LOL
"Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" wrote in message Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor) wrote:
Nah, very unlikely there will be an Ultimate N edition. Takes away the whole point of having it "ultimate" if it has no support for multimedia. It'll just be "Ultimate Edition" and thats it :o)
And your point is? (remember this is the EU we're talking about - common sense and logic don't apply) <g
-- Steve Foster [SBS MVP] --------------------------------------- MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.